Thank you to all who participated in our event today! We have some fantastic chats about different topics in the music education world and a couple of fun hangouts! If you participated or even just watched today, there is a fun UNOFFICIAL attendance certificate on our home page www.musedmot.webs.com to download and show off to your friends! Here are the archives from today. Thank you to Stephanie Sanders and Agnes from Musical Ear for moderating chats today and for Quaver Music for giving me permission to do a product walkthrough on a Google On Air Hangout!
Video Hangout Archives
Introduction to Google Plus Video Hangouts
All About Quaver’s Marvelous World of Music From a Quaver Teacher
Twitter Archives (Be prepared for a LONG list!!):
@Stephdon @Musedmot Enjoy the rest of your day. Thanks Stephanie! #musedmot
@Musedmot Thank you for this fabulous and FUN day of PD! You are amazing! #musedmot
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@Stephdon @Mwren13 Thank you for joining in! The attendance will go live on musedmot.webs.com shortly! #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot And you all! #musedmot
@Musedmot @Mwren13 And on that note I’m going to call it a day! This has been wonderful. #musedmot
@Musedmot @Stephdon Right back at ya 😉 #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot AMEN! although I have to say my school has wonderful PD… #musedmot
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@Stephdon @Mwren13 It’s cause you guys are awesome 😀 #musedmot
@Stephdon @Musedmot If all PD was like this, I would never complain about meetings 😉 #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot Agree! Here it is Sat., summer, we’re working long-distance and it hardly seems like work but a lot like play! #musedmot
@Musedmot Sorry never used one, so I can’t help ;( #musedmot
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It’s sort of amazing ear training effects Ss differently. After 6 months of it, I had an autistic student singing perfect solfedge #musedmot
@Stephdon These are the best types of conversations 😉 #musedmot
@Musedmot sorry can’t help you with that one! 🙂 #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot I think we can work around it OK. #musedmot
@Musedmot @Stephdon IDK what jazz related thing to have my kids perform. Will have to think on that 😉 #musedmot
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My archiver isn’t working for tweets! Best tweet archiver? #musedmot
@Stephdon Central. One hour behind you. That could bean issue ;( #musedmot
@Musedmot @Mwren13 Yes! #musedmot
@Mwren13 what time zone are you in? #musedmot
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@Mwren13 @Stephdon in my calendar! I’ll start pulling stuff together and seeing which school I’m at to get them prepared 🙂 #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot WooHoo! #musedmot
@Musedmot @Stephdon Marked on my calendar. 😉 I will start writing the permissions slip now. #musedmot
@Musedmot @Mwren13 In writing so we have to do it, correct? #musedmot
@Stephdon Gotcha. Makes sense. #musedmot
@Mwren13 copyright just so we’re doing it right. #musedmot
@Stephdon @Musedmot It is still one of my favs 🙂 #musedmot
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@Stephdon @Mwren13 April Virtual Performance! Let’s do it! #musedmot
@Stephdon Permission? #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot April would be much less crazy for me. #musedmot
@Musedmot @Stephdon It would fit in well with out Jazz Unit. March seems to always be crazy 😉 #musedmot
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@Stephdon @Mwren13 THe beginning of MIOSM works for me or April too! Seeing Jazz instruments would make my kids flip out 🙂 #musedmot
We’re somewhat off topic…but this is why I love connecting this way! #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot or MIOS? Although we go on vacation for 14 days in the middle of March. #musedmot
@Musedmot @Mwren13 or perm. to write a band arrangement for kids to play for yours for this? #musedmot
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@Stephdon yes! and I’ll keep thinking of more, I save a lot of choral/ instrumental pieces from conferences @Mwren13 #musedmot
@Stephdon @Musedmot During April Jazz month? I showed my Ss some of the International Jazz Concert. #musedmot
@Musedmot @Mwren13 could see if I could get perm. to arrange something light for instrumental? #musedmot
@Stephdon @Musedmot If you have any other suggestions, please let me know 😉 #musedmot
@Musedmot @Mwren13 maybe my MS jazz ensemble could accompany??? #musedmot
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@Stephdon I’m wondering if there is an instrumental part for it too @Mwren13 #musedmot
@Stephdon @Musedmot It would be another way to include the standard on evaluating performances. #musedmot
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@Stephdon @Mwren13 us too, had Tech person in there and made sure we were good before going live #musedmot
@Stephdon @Musedmot I know we have something for pics. I checked on that for class website. I will double check. #musedmot
@Musedmot @Mwren13 That is a fabulous piece. Even though I don’t T chorus, I do still keep up on vocal music! 🙂 #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot we have a blanket policy Ps sign only if they don’t want to have Ss images appear online in PR. I asked too. #musedmot
@Musedmot @Stephdon LOVE IT! We did it for our conference concert and our 7/8 spring concert. #musedmot
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@Mwren13 @Stephdon I’m like jumping in my seat right now #musedmot
@Stephdon @Musedmot I would have to talk to my P. I think it could work. #musedmot
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@Mwren13 @Stephdon I know one song that I did with a multi level chorus that was GORGEOUS Called “Can you Hear” by Jim Papoulis #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot No, but we R 1:1 and the tech trusts me. Need to check w/tech. Also promote to Admin. Great PR for school/mus #musedmot
@Musedmot @Stephdon Did you need permission slips and stuff? Our tech Guidelines are a work in progress I think. #musedmot
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@Mwren13 @Stephdon I used a webcam from school and downloaded Skype,we tested the connection day before, that was it! #musedmot
@Stephdon @Musedmot Very cool! #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot YES! #musedmot
@Musedmot @Stephdon Did you have any issues with your school? Tech seems to be new at our sch. Sounds like a great opportunity. #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot virtual compsr in residence for 5 mos. w/7-8 band & composer Skyped in to Concert talk w/aud. and other school #musedmot
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@Mwren13 @Stephdon Yes, we each sang a song for each other and then a “review” of it for each other. My whole school wanted in 🙂 #musedmot
@Musedmot @Stephdon I might be in on this 😉 #musedmot
@Stephdon @Musedmot Have you guys tried using Skype in class before? #musedmot
@Musedmot @Mwren13 our own little #musedmot “virtual choir!”
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@Stephdon @Mwren13 #musedmot performance! Let’s do this! lol!
@Musedmot @Mwren13 Skype in class is really cool and opens a lot of opportunities! #musedmot
@Musedmot @Mwren13 I you want to perform togthr need to pick a call/response because of delay. But sing for each other is great! #musedmot
@Musedmot @MusicalEarSwe Ended 5/6 with Home by Phillips, Somebody I used to know and spiritual-Shut De Do. #musedmot
@Musedmot OK you have a deal..All over this! Let’s pick a piece! #musedmot
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@Mwren13 @Stephdon I’m wondering if having in class Skype performances with other schools would promote more focus on the music #Musedmot
@Musedmot @MusicalEarSwe 5/6 started with Good Night and Que Llueva. 7/8 was more picky on music. #musedmot
@Musedmot @Mwren13 @MusicalEarSwe for our school doing “serious” music tends to be more of school “culture” battle than anything. #musedmot
@Stephdon @Musedmot I am trying to add more at the Elem, even just in class ones. We just have a Christmas Program. #musedmot
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@Stephdon Skype Performance with my kids 😉 I can see my Kindergartners faces right now lol #musedmot
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@Mwren13 I tried “Just One Small Voice” this year and got lots of lip from students about it #musedmot @MusicalEarSwe
@Musedmot That was more of a struggle with7/8, but most of the Ss didn’t want to be there. It was a learning process for me 😉 #musedmot
@Musedmot @MusicalEarSwe It would depend on your definition of serious. 5/6 loves spirituals so we did 1 in spring. More next yr. #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot I wish we could have more performances. #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot I feel very fortunate, especially w/some schedules I have had. Drwbck for MS is M/F are 2 days and miss a lot. #musedmot
@Stephdon @MusicalEarSwe It was terrifying for me at first, but it’s fun directing when a choir sounds good and is working hard. #musedmot
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@Mwren13 That’s smart! Keep them too occupied to come up with an argument #musedmot
@Musedmot We have a concert at the MS and HS every quarter, so we have lots of work to do, which helps keep things focused. #musedmot
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@Mwren13 I do a lot of that too, have you tried a serious piece? any pushback from kids? @MusicalEarSwe #musedmot
@Mwren13 @MusicalEarSwe That has always been a scary thing for me. Glad it worked for you! #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe Usually pop 😉 Or I pick a few pieces and they get to select from those. They worked hard and sounded great. #musedmot
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Love the schedules! I only have mine for 25 min a week 1 time after school #musedmot
@Musedmot PK-PG we have 19 ensembles. Pretty amazing for our size, but I sometimes wonder if less would be best for enrollment. #musedmot
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@Mwren13 Did you find it tough to have the 5/6 for that long of time? #musedmot
@Musedmot @Stephdon I agree! great to see schools putting focus on the arts. #musedmot
@Musedmot @Stephdon That schedule sounds awesome! #musedmot
@Mwren13 Sounds great! So what kind of music did they pick? Only pop style, or “serious” pieces too? #musedmot
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@Stephdon very true! Still amazing how many ensembles you guys have over there! #musedmot
@Musedmot 3/4 was one day during recess, 5/6 is 30 min 2x a week, and 7/8 is on A days for 40 min (AB schedule). #musedmot
@Musedmot written right in the mission statement. Which for a coll. prep is a great thing! #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe This yr I had great success when I had my Ss pick most of the music. It was a challenge for me, but good results #musedmot
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@Stephdon Wow! you weren’t kidding when you said your school was performance based! #musedmot
@Musedmot You are funny! #musedmot
gr. 2-4 = 1 day, 5/6 & 7/8=3 days w/1 as sectional. US = 4 days w/1 double block. 2-8 = 40 min. and US = 45/80 min. #musedmot
@Musedmot Elem school did not have a choir and for a few yrs they did not have music. Still working on building the elem program. #musedmot
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@Stephdon I can send my little guys to you and you can take mine if you want 😉 hehehe #musedmot
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What does your schedule typically look like for a rehearsal? #musedmot
@Musedmot Very true. I hope to build this yr my 3/4 chorus to help with 5/6 when they get to MS. #musedmot
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@Mwren13 agreed! did they have a chorus before you came? I know it wasn’t the case for me #musedmot
@Musedmot This past yr was th first yr teaching chorus in this toe of setting. It was a learning experience for sure! #musedmot
I don’t have chorus at the moment, but we have around 12 in 5/6, 18 in 7/8 and 16 in US. #musedmot
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@Mwren13 that always seems to be the case doesn’t it? I’ve had a chorus during recess in recent years and numbers drop due to that #musedmot
How do you select the pieces to sing for your choirs? #musedmot
@Musedmot @Mwren13: @Musedmot In MS 7/8 joins to get out of other classes. I could get more 5/6 but its during study hall. #musedmot
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@MusicalEarSwe @Mwren13 I used Tweetchat that did the same sort of thing, that site is down right now for repair for a few months #musedmot
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@Mwren13 wow! those are some great numbers! I have 25 in one of my sections and 45 in another #musedmot
@Mwren13 @Musedmot The normal Twitter page seemed slow, Twubs was faster and the #musedmot hashtag was automatically pasted into tweets
@Musedmot 3/4 was around 20 kids depending on the weather. 7/8-45 and 5/6-20is. Scheduling impacts MS a lot. #musedmot
Myself I don’t work with choirs, but choir singing is great to raise harmonic awareness, so MusicalEar also has choir exercises #musedmot
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@Mwren13 what kinds of numbers do you have in your ensembles? #Musedmot
@Musedmot @MusicalEarSwe I have never heard of it either. I stick to the normal Twitter app. #musedmot
@Musedmot This yr I have 5/6 chorus. Also started a 3/4 choir that meets during recess. Last yr I taught 7/8 also. #musedmot
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@Mwren13 no worries! this is a come and go as you please sort of thing 🙂 #musedmot
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So what kind of (If you do) vocal ensembles do you have? #musedmot
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@MusicalEarSwe I’ve never heard of Twubs, I’ll have to try that one out 🙂 #musedmot
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I teach two different choir sections after school open to 3rd-5th graders, not a ton of actual learning just for fun stuff #musedmot
@Musedmot Here 😉 Marisa from IL #musedmot
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by the way, for those of you who have stuck around, there will be a for fun attendance certificate showing up on the #musedmot homepage soon
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Welcome to our last #musedmot chat of the day! All about Vocal ensembles! Who is around?
Lots to follow today! #musedmot #musicedhack and it is time to review the new arts standards! fb.me/Gr6qiEk8 #musedchat #mused
RT @MusicalSojourn If students are to do ear training at home it’s advisable to give guidelines,so it’s productive & fun/enjoyable #musedmot
RT @Musedmot We’ll be heading over to Google plus one more time for a hangout about @QuaverMusic in about 10 minutes! #musedmot #musedchat
Thanks to all for joining this great twitter chat about ear training! Thumbs up to @Musedmot @musiccargirl14 for organizing! #musedmot
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Feel free to continue chatting all about Ear Training! Thank you @MusicalEarSwe! 🙂#musedmot
@Musedmot it is a challenge if you are not comfortable w/it or do not have the equip for all Ss. #musedmot
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We’ll be heading over to Google plus one more time for a hangout all about @QuaverMusic in about 10 minutes! #musedmot #musedchat
@MusicalSojourn Yes, very true! However, music notation programs play increasing role in musicians’ life so it’s very useful. #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe Free is one of my fav words. I installed @Finale_Music notepad on all computers in our lab. Ss loved it. #musedmot
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A BIG Thank you to @MusicalEarSwe for moderating our chat on Ear Training! Check out their website musicalear.com/en.aspx ! #musedmot
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I’m a techy and build it in especially as a full class but it is hard to do so unless you’re well practiced in doing so #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe that works if Ss know how to use it or have access to it. Often class time doesnt allow for much tech instruction #musedmot
Students also enjoy working on dictations on a computer. There are many notation programs available for free e.g. Finale NotePad #musedmot
To create dictations, it’s gr8 to have the full score in a notation program, you just delete a few notes & the exercise is ready! #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Agree, the level of difficulty of the dictation shd match the skill level of Ss so it’s challenging but possible #musedmot
@Musedmot church hymns & folk songs to classical themes & pop music #musedmot
Ear training can really boost the musical confidence of students #musedmot
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What kinds of songs have people used for their exercises? #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe I choose the music & create files cuz I must it tailor to the progress of the class & the ability of individual Ss #musedmot
Students will enjoy ear training exercises in different genres, not only classical, but pop/rock, latin, folk etc. as well #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe I like this idea. 🙂 My Ss will “get” to do this this fall. #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Exactly! Where do you find the exercises for these dictations? Do you create your own music files & worksheets? #musedmot
I normally tell them the key and starting note. Sometimes the meter if the sample is too short to determine. #musedmot
@JamesPJensen @MusicalEarSwe I’ll work on that they are pulled out of symph. band 2 days per week, so I could sneak over there. #musedmot
@Stephdon But notating great jazz solos is also a very useful ear training exercise! #musedmot
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#tmlt #musedmot @Musedmot If they get it right, they get to put a bead on their pipe cleaner; if wrong, I do another melody
@Stephdon With jazz students, ear training can be less notation dependent as well, more emphasis on chords/improvisation #musedmot
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@Stephdon @MusicalEarSwe Would love to see that rehearsal! Any chance a video could make its way on the web? #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Love this idea! #musedmot
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@Musedmot #musedmot #tmlt I ask one kid if the melody is the same or different.
W/my college Ss I have emailed them a music file that they notate for the next class or exam. simplified would work w/younger Ss #musedmot
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@Musedmot #musedmot I give kids pipe cleaners and beads. I sing two melodies on solfege.
@MusicalEarSwe Our HS jazz band teacher teaches only “head music” no printed music ever except what kids write down. #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn And singing exercises can be gr8 for self-study too, but best is, if there is an accompaniment they can listen to #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Dictations are gr8 ET homework. Ss receive music + score w missing notes, they can listen as many times as needed #musedmot
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@JamesPJensen hhmm, I hope that is in the works, would make a lot of people happy! 🙂 @SmartMusic #musedmot
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@Musedmot Lots of sight reading, as far as I’m aware, but no dictation or interval work in @SmartMusic #musedmot
Ear training also needs to be connected to real music, so it’s never something “dry” but always put into a context #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe what type of ET homework do you give? #musedmot
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@MusicalSojourn @MusicalEarSwe Esp. if students already subscribe for sight reading and literature assessment! #musedmot
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@MusicalSojourn @JamesPJensen @MusicalEarSwe I’m wondering if the choral version has something..#musedmot
@JamesPJensen @MusicalEarSwe I would love to see this. I have band Ss who use this software and like it. great suggestion! #musedmot
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@MusicalEarSwe there are many that connect to music on such a different level, I also have 2 that are amazing drummers #musedmot
Ear training homework is very useful, especially something with an end product e.g. dictation exercise, to be checked in lesson #musedmot
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@MusicalSojourn another reason to add to the “Why music is important” list #musedmot
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@MusicalSojourn @MusicalEarSwe Is there potential for the SmartMusic software to incorporate ET? Is that even a possibility #musedmot
@Musedmot, I have seen many non-verbal Ss w/special needs connect in music by vocalizing – much to the surprise of their other Ts #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Interesting to hear this about autistic students. Having a good pitch must give them so much pleasure in music #musedmot
If Ss are to do ET @home it is advisable to give guidelines, again so they know what to do so it is productive & fun/enjoyable #musedmot
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@MusicalSojourn very much so! He actually was non verbal until he started singing perfect solfedge. #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Agree! To develop inner hearing, it’s necessary to “feel” the harmonic environment. So playing chords will help #musedmot
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@Musedmot, I have found autistic Ss to be very good pitch wise. Their hearing is so sensitive. #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe This is so very important! But they must be guided in this otherwise they don’t know what they should be doing. #musedmot
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It’s sort of amazing ear training effects Ss differently. After 6 months of it, I had an autistic student singing perfect solfedge #musedmot
Do you ask your students to do ear training at home? If yes, what kind of exercises? #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Inner hearing is very important! Students should try to imagine notes in their head before singing/playing #musedmot
@Musedmot, I either use solfa syllables or a neutral syllable such as “loo” this is determined by level of Ss &/or the activity #musedmot
@JamesPJensen Absolutely! All ear training with band and theory challenges me! Part of the fun is kids=correct me=not so much! #musedmot
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@Stephdon @JamesPJensen I’m going to have to tell @pisanojm about this 🙂 #musedmot
How about achieving results with ear training? Any inspiring success stories to share? #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe during practice I don’t keep track of the points – they do because they want to. Very lucky with the kids I have. #musedmot
Sing a song on solfa. Then Have Ss sing some phrases & “think” (inner hearing) certain phrases. #musedmot
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@Stephdon Makes for an easy, quick, but super fun game! (Also challenges the director sometimes!) #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe @MusicalSojourn Amen! #musedmot
@JamesPJensen It’s great when ear training exercises have so sticky tunes, that the students memorize them when working on them #musedmot
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@MusicalSojourn do you use the actual solfedge words or change them up but keep pitches? #musedmot
@JamesPJensen Love APS Tuning Trainer for my band kids..even the very young ones! #musedmot
T establishes tonality for students. Then T shows Ss a melodic line using hand signs. Ss sing back on solfa. #musedmot
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iPad apps for ET – APS Tuning Trainer, Pitch Primer (this one is super cool!), and the interval training apps. Any favorites? #musedmot
RT @MusicalSojourn Teachers must be consistent in ear training. Only doing it every so often doesn’t work. Make it fun #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe In daily practice I give one example at a time, everyone says their answer and then I ask THEM who is correct. #musedmot
@Stephdon Agree, dictations are amazingly useful, and there are so many activities to do when ready with it e.g. singing, clapping #musedmot
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@Musedmot Learned it in solfege with hand signs and then played it on instruments! They played it for fun for weeks after I left! #musedmot
There are melodic & rhythm bingo games you can buy or create. Websites for interval training #musedmot
@Stephdon Very interesting! How do you make ear training into a game? You count the points for correct answers? #musedmot
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@Stephdon Competition is awesome 😉 #musedmot
The purpose of this session is not to advertise MusicalEar, but all looking for a new resource are invited to try & share opinion! #musedmot
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@JamesPJensen That is awesome! I knew it was pretty simple, but didn’t know it was that easy! #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe for my adv. theory kids, they make it a game. Very competitive and love to beat each other. They even keep track! #musedmot
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@MusicalEarSwe I introduced solf and dictation to band Ss using 1D’s That’s What Makes You Beautiful the chorus is only m-r-d! #musedmot
Ts must be consistent in ET. Only doing it every so often doesn’t work. Make it fun – use games that Ss don’t realize is “work” #musedmot
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I know games are a big thing for me to make it fun,I am also a Responsive classroom teacher and built it into morning meeting time #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe exactly! #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe Dictation is a favorite and equally a love/hate relationship w/my theory kids! 🙂 #musedmot
For sightsinging there are a lot of resources. For ear training there are fewer. I believe T know their students & create for them #musedmot
Another big topic within ear training: How to make it fun & enjoyable for the students? Any tips/ideas to share? #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Yes, it is definitely a very beneficial approach! #musedmot
With students growing ear training needs to gradually connect with notation. Dictation exercises, sight-singing, choir singing etc #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe, this takes more work on the part of the T, but it is worth it in the long run #musedmot
Ear training activites for smaller kids: singing easy tunes, canons, telling if 2 short music segments were same or different #musedmot
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@MusicalSojourn Any recommended resources? #musedmot
Go from simple to complex. Even w/olderSs. Build them up developmentally. #musedmot
RT @MusicalSojourn Ear training is incorporated into daily warm ups, I.e. intervals they will meet in the music during rehearsals #musedmot
@Musedmot, echo singing, singing games where children sing alone, aurally distinguishing melodies & rhythms #musedmot
@JamesPJensen Agree, singing is important for instrumental students too. No need for a nice voice just sing in tune w musicality #musedmot
Then they see in “in context” w/I the repertoire #musedmot
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What kinds of activities would be recommended for k-5 students? #musedmot
Ear training is incorporated into daily warm ups, I.e. intervals they will encounter in the music during rehearsals. #musedmot
@JamesPJensen That’s great for band…forgot to mention that I try to have the kids sing parts – 5/6 is more willing than olders. #musedmot
RT @Stephdon Bands = tuning and listening for balance and blend across the ensemble and some playing by ear #musedmot
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@MusicalEarSwe Thanks! I’m excited to participate! #musedmot
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I’m a huge fan of using solfege in both band and choir to teach students to audiate the notes on the page. #musedmot
@JamesPJensen Good luck for the transition! #musedmot is a great event to help you make new contacts
Bands = tuning and listening for balance and blend across the ensemble and some playing by ear. #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Do u have a specific part of the class dedicated to ear training or it’s sort of present during the whole lesson? #musedmot
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I try doing the basics with my young students, listening, solfedge singing, etc. #musedmot
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@MusicalEarSwe I’m currently looking for a position in the Denver area! I’d love to teach MS or HS choir or band! #musedmot
.@MusicalSojourn Wow, we have a real expert on ear training here! 🙂 Looking forward to hearing your thoughts #musedmot
ET is part of daily routine in choral groups. #musedmot
@JamesPJensen Hi James, welcome to #musedmot! What do you teach?
Hi all! Here from TN. Kodaly certified. Teach ear training at university #musedmot
Let’s start the chat with the 1st Q: Do you/how do you include ear training in your classes? #musedmot
James Patrick Jensen @JamesPJensen
I’m here! #musedmot
Moderating the chat this is Agnes behind MusicalEar, I’m a musician and music teacher myself besides working with customer support #musedmot
I’m ready! #musedmot
Hi everybody, nice to have u all hear at Mus Ed Mot Day! Can we start the session with a quick round of intros to see who’s here? #musedmot
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A big thank you to @MusicalEarSwe for moderating our next chat All About Ear Training! #musedmot #musedchat
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4 minutes to our Twitter chat on All about Ear Training with #MusicalEarSwe! Come join the #musedmot chats #musedchat
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Michael Kurpjuweit @mikekurps
I love teaching band, but Sask curric has no ensemble skill outcomes. Sometimes it feels like square peg round hole. #musedmot
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I’m wearing a pirate hat playing in the the G+ hangout, come say hi! Page is Catie Dwinal #musedmot
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@shaugland not being allowed to grade concerts is like saying the final product doesn’t matter. What’s the main objection? #musedmot
Is thankful my husband was willing to go shopping alone so I could stay and participate in the Twitter Chat 😉 #musedmot
What a nice teacher! 🙂 RT @shaugland Sometimes participation is the kid’s best skill and he/she should be rewarded for it! #musedmot
@shaugland I agree! Thank you for the great ideas Susan. Have a great weekend. #musedmot
#musedmot – ciao, everyone! Great chat! Good way to wake up on a cloudy Saturday morning. 🙂
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If not! We will see you at 12pm est on twitter for an amazing chat on Ear Train with @MusicalEarSwe !! #musedmot
@Stephdon @Musedmot Thank you for moderating/organizing!!! Another great music chat. #musedmot
#musedmot must be cool. I just got two spam tweets.
@MusicalSojourn @shaugland Very true! I never thought of it that way, but that is right on. #musedmot
Thanks all for the interesting thoughts, see you back here on twitter in 1 hour, bring all your thoughts/ideas/Qs on ear training! #musedmot
@Musedmot Thank you everyone. I love these chances to get together and talk w/other music folks! Thanks for the great discussion! #musedmot
@Musedmot I wish it was on mine. I included it in my grade, but I know it’s controversial among some. #musedmot
@Mwren13 @MusicalSojourn @shaugland Yes have done that w/2 diff. band kids. They loved it! #musedmot
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Thank you to @Stephdon for this great topic and chat!If you’d like to play around with Google plus video hangouts Seeyou at 11:15! #musedmot
@shaugland @Mwren13 Right! #musedmot
@Stephdon @MusicalSojourn @shaugland Glad to know I am not alone in this belief. #musedmot
@shaugland @MusicalSojourn How about motivating composer type Ss to practice performing by having them perform their own pieces? #musedmot
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Question here! How are you expected to assess students progress towards standards by admin and how do you accomplish that? #musedmot
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Wow! That hour went by fast! Feel free to keep on chatting about this great subject! I’m going over to G+ to set up a hangout #musedmot
@shaugland @Stephdon This makes me feel slightly better 😉 Finished yr 4 and always question process. Glad to know I’m not alone. #musedmot
@Mwren13 I have participation on there because sometimes that’s the kid’s best skill and he/she should be rewarded for it! #musedmot
@Mwren13 @MusicalSojourn @shaugland Oh how I wish everyone would understand this! 🙂 #musedmot
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@Mwren13 I tell my kids I’m teaching them to be musicians. Participation, perf. part of that experience, expectation. #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn @shaugland That is exactly why I try to incorporate differ activities. Music is not just singing, playing.. #musedmot
It is imp for Ts to find what works for them to get the job of assessment done. Being organized helps to streamline the process. #musedmot
I struggle with grading participation, but I also believe you have to participate in music in order to learn it. #musedmot
@shaugland oh I agree. Just need to have variety so all are able to find success. #musedmot
Just fin. yr. 35 still trying to figure out the whole assessment/grading thing for our music kids. Love this discussion #musedmot
RT @shaugland Different types of musical intelligences composer/performer/analyst – grade for the type of musician each student is #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Very true! It is always a great reminder that we don’t all learn the same. #musedmot
It is important to assess for different things because there are different types of learners (yes, I know we all know this) #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn I agree. Sometimes the grading helps motivate Ps to get their child to the concert. #musedmot
@Mwren13 Working with choir students will be a great topic to discuss at the next (12 pm est) twitter chat about ear training! #musedmot
@shaugland Agree! This is a debated quest. in many groups and I’m just curious to how others feel. #musedmot
@shaugland I see both sides. The concert is the reward. Work so hard, we want to show our families what we can do. #musedmot
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@Stephdon Different types of musical intelligences: composer/performer/analyst – grade for the type of musician each student is. #musedmot
I hesitate to grade on evening concerts w/elem Ss since their attendance is often dependent on unwilling/uncooperative adults #musedmot
@Musedmot I count the concert as a single assess. If a student has excused abs. then there is an assign. based on conc. mat. #musedmot
@Musedmot Attendance. Prep counts towards other assessments. #musedmot
@Stephdon I teach MS chorus. Some Ss have a hard time matching pitch. I don’t count that against them if they are giving effort. #musedmot
Grading for concerts, etc. is frowned on here. Better to have rewards for those who attend/extra assignment for those who don’t. #musedmot
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For those who count concerts as assessments, do you just do it based on attendance or something else? #musedmot
How do you feel about this? Do you feel all students who put in the effort MS-HS should receive an A regardless of skill? #musedmot
@SammiRaRa Good night! Thx for the ideas! I am in Europe, here it’s afternoon, perfect time for some tweet chat on music ed #musedmot
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@Stephdon I count preparation for grade level shows but some kids cannot get to the concert due to problems at home. #musedmot
@Stephdon I use concert activities to see if they are progressing or mastering certain concepts. This yr I graded for attendance. #musedmot
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@SammiRaRa Thank you for joining in! Have a wonderful evening! #Musedmot
@SammiRaRa Thanks for joining us! 🙂 #musedmot
@Stephdon I did a lot more recording with 2nd grade. It was motivation for Ss to work hard. #musedmot
Would love to stay and chat but its past midnight here, time for sleep, will read through the tweets tomorrow. Have fun! #musedmot
Backtracking to specific assess/grades. Do you count concerts as an assess? If so what percent? #musedmot
#musedmot is today! Music educators please follow @musiccargirl14 today and get a great start to the summer (or a mid-summer break for some)
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qrstuff.com is a great code generator, I use it for boards and programs. I love @SammiRaRa ‘s idea! #musedmot
“@musiccargirl14: Welcome to #musedmot!! We will be here from now until our last chat on twitter at 3pm est.” have a great day!
If you share Digi.ports w/Ps do they ever get to anxious about how their kids are progressing or not? #musedmot
@Mwren13 Also,
Identifies form.
Composes melody within given parameters.
And the ever-present, participates in class
@shaugland Awesome! Thank you for the ideas. #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn You can create QR codes for any URL on internet. There are QR code generator websites which do it for you #musedmot
@Stephdon I think so. It’s still new, so I need to push it more. Counter on main of, so I know people to there. #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn @SammiRaRa I would be interested in this. Have only used QR codes for our online programs this year. #musedmot
@Stephdon I love Evernote for having my Ss record Recorder Assessments into. #musedmot
@Mwren13 that’s great! I need to work more w/GS…just haven’t taken time. Do your Ps check in on the sites? #musedmot
Am trying to replace written narratives w/digi.ports next year for all Ss. Biggest challenge for me is staying ahead of it all. #musedmot
@Stephdon The real reason I picked sites was because I keep them updated so parents can see progress in class. #musedmot
@SammiRaRa does the QR code (these are new for me) lead to the videos? #musedmot
@Musedmot I hand them my iPad and they go in pairs to practice room. I like it bc can annotate on it for post. etc. #musedmot
@shaugland Gotcha! If you don’t mind. I’m trying to get ideas on how others use SBG in music. Thanks Susan! #musedmot
@Mwren13 beat me to the question! 🙂 I have experimented w/GS and Weebly, but settled on Evernote at least for now. #musedmot
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@Stephdon I remember you talking about that when I visited, do the kids get more out of you using Coaches Eye? #musedmot
Just beginning to use video and dig records in classes. Record Assmnt perf, post priv YouTube, create QR codes 4 families 2 share #musedmot
If you use dig. ports., what do you to organize share? #musedmot
@Stephdon I just started using google sites. Each grade has a portfolio (site) w/ video, projects, pics and audio. Add to each yr.#musedmot
@Mwren13 Exactly. Students have to know what you’re looking for. (to a certain extent) #musedmot
Yes with all the tech. it is much easier to do video. I use Coach’s Eye app and have a Flip and H2N camera I give to the kids. #musedmot
@Mwren13 No, no, no…. I only have 5 spaces on our computer-generated report card. I can list what I have on there if you want. #musedmot
@shaugland I might put primary friendly words next to it. Sows progress thru mastery and Ss can assess themselves w/ same words. #musedmot
@Mwren13 I agree, I love the ease of the iPad #musedmot
I use video to assess MYSELF! #musedmot
@Mwren13 @shaugland That is great! I’m borrowing it! #musedmot
@shaugland Do you assess every standard? How often do you assess? Thank you for the ideas! #musedmot
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@MusicalEarSwe @Stephdon I’ve heard about that one before, I’ll have to try it out #musedmot
@Mwren13 LOVE that!! My k-2 kids would have a tough time reading it, but I love it! 🙂 #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe @Musedmot Yes I’ve heard about Vocaroo but never have tried it. #musedmot
I made mainly audio files & gave students a disc at the end of the year. (They provided the disc if they wanted one.) #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn I am thankful for my district issued iPad. Creating video and audio are very simple. #musedmot
I have been using Dig.Ports loosely for several years, but only formally this year. Everyone really likes them! #musedmot
@Musedmot @Stephdon vocaroo.com is easy to use tool to record & email files. We’ll use it during our next online course #musedmot
@shaugland Thats a great goal! I found a self assessment chart that is similar to what you said. #musedmot pic.twitter.com/3kMzwJlpxz
That was going to be my next Q. If you use dig. portfolios, how do you use them? Just for Ts, share w/Ss, Ps? #musedmot
Video has gotten easier with tech. iPad, phone, computer is such a plus. The majority of my teaching was pre this tech 😦 #musedmot
I use videos and audio clips for grade level portfolios. Show growth and progress. #musedmot
@Mwren13 @shaugland We have a few pub. schools here in ME that do similar grading up through HS. It is controv. but I like it! #musedmot
@shaugland I really like this idea. I am transitioning to SBB this next yr. thanks for the idea. #musedmot
For T eval TN Ts must develop a portfolio that demonstrates student progress. This is done thru assessment #musedmot
@Stephdon How we assess is a big part of our evaluation process and will be even more closely scrutinized as CC takes effect #musedmot
For singing/instrumental assessment, video or sound recordings are great, not so much for the teacher, but for the kids to listen #musedmot
@Stephdon Mostly observation. Some theory sheets for older Ss. Still include participation. Going to separate the grades next yr. #musedmot
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@Stephdon mostly observation, with my schedule it’s tough to set up a video before a class. I do use Soundcloud to record singing #musedmot
Here in TN it is very much on their minds. #musedmot
K receives no grades for fine arts here. Grades 1 & 2 get B (beginning) D (developing) or S (secure) for each standard. #musedmot
Wondering if any of your admins. check out what you are doing for assessment? #musedmot
@Musedmot Do you do any video or is it all observation? #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Same here. My elem Ss get S and ES. #musedmot
What is included in your assessments? #musedmot
@Stephdon I should say this is for all band kids. #musedmot
A2: 5-6 mostly observation w/3 formal per Tri. 7-12, 1 per week video assess on assigned material. #musedmot
By the end of he quarter each S had 8-9 grades. #musedmot
Once a week. #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe @MusicalSojourn this is very important for our Ss but also the parents and admin. #musedmot
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@Stephdon 4 times a quarter and assessment is based on subject that quarter.Mostly observational or aural because I have k-5 #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn how often to you do these assessments? #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn Great to have rules of evaluation so well structured and organized & also to be announced to students in advance #musedmot
Q2: recorded performance, written, & embedded assessments #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe Agree! #musedmot
Because I had more individual grades for each student to validate their grades. #musedmot
Question 2: How often do you do formal assessments? #musedmot
@Stephdon Kids also need to learn that the achievement is what is judged (in life too) so they need to put in the effort needed #musedmot
As I became more structured/organized w/my grading the less I accounted for effort. #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn To me that seems about the norm for what I do. #musedmot
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I hate when people include effort in on grade,everyone tries their best, it just seems sometake less effort to succeed then others #musedmot
What was an A was my highest grade (S+\E) What was a B, C, D was my next grade (S/M/D) F became my lowest (U/N) #musedmot
@MusicalEarSwe Yes! Our 5-8 students have a separate effort grade on RC so I get conflicted including effort in the grade. #musedmot
I took the 5pt district grading scale & made it music’s 3pt scale. #musedmot
It’s very important to take the effort into consideration, but we need to try to stay objective as well and grade the achievement #musedmot
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@Stephdon We move to letters in 6-12, they like to soften the letter grade blow in elem #musedmot
The school district has a grading scale. I modified music grades to go along with that scale #musedmot
@MusicalSojourn could you describe the breakdown of your elem. grades and the grade they receive? #musedmot
Do your Ss receive an effort grade in addition to letter/number or is that included in your grading scale? #musedmot
@Musedmot in my school MS 5/6 Ss = letter 7-12 Ss receive percent. #musedmot
My elem Ss received letter grades, but what type varies by grade. MS/HS get letter grades #musedmot
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I teach elementary general, we have a 1,2,3,4 number based system. 1 being worst, 4 being best #musedmot
Starting with first question: Do your Ss receive letter, number or P/F grades on report cards? #musedmot
@Stephdon Grading and Assessment in the Music Classroom is a very interesting topic! Looking forward to all the thoughts coming up #musedmot
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@MusicalSojourn Thank you for joining in! 🙂 #musedmot
Hi Sarah Welcome! #musedmot
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@MusicalEarSwe thank you for joining in today! #musedmot
Good morning! I am looking forward to the discussion. #musedmot
I’m Stephanie and I teach in a small Indep. day school in So. Maine. 5-12 bands and several singletons in HS. #musedmot
Hi @musiccargirl14 and @Stephdon! Nice to be here at the Music Ed Motivation Day tweet chat sessions with you #musedmot
Hi Everyone! We’ll start of the day with a discussion about grading/assess. in music/perf. classes. #musedmot
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